The penultimate episode felt a little flat to me. Things we’ve all seen before and all too familiar. It also leaves a lot to do for the final episode. Maybe it will be a double length episode? Even so, I hope they land it. Somehow.
Been wanting to rewatch the Trilogy again with my GF she hasn’t seen it before I want to give her the closest experience to the theatrical cut possible. I have seen multiple Fan Edits online which one do you think is the closest and accurate to the original cut ?
Many people appear to go for Harmy’s Despecialized Editions, or TN1’s 4K77/4K80/4K83 preservations. But there are others to choose from too.
There is information on the different projects here, from An Index & Help Thread for Original Trilogy Discussion:
If you are looking for Fan Preservations of the Original Trilogy - this is where to look…
(Notably Harmy’s Despecialized Editions, or TN1’s 4K77/80/83 Trilogy, or other countless preservation projects made by fans)
The Star Wars Preservation forum
and
An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Preservations
and for Fan Edits of the Original Trilogy…
An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Fan Edits and Other Projects
Also of interest may be…
The ‘Which Is Best?’ Star Wars Preservation Project discussion threads
and
as well looking in…
About, Help, Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within, and ‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + member FAQs - for links to useful info and some often-searched fan projects.
Information can also be found in the various pinned ‘Index & Help’ threads located around the forum.
Hi, I’m sure this gets asked all the time and I’m sorry for posting. After spending some time going through the FAQ’s I just wanted to be clear about something.
If I want to download one of the original 35mm prints, I have to ask in the comments for that post? and then someone will hopefully DM a link?
Yes, pretty much.
Follow in the instructions in the opening post of the thread, which is usually asking people to send them a PM or similar.
If not, then read through the thread for any further instructions or help. If still no luck, then make a post asking for it in the thread.
or follow this from the ‘How do I do this?/FAQs’ thread:
^ spambots, or AI spambots?
Like in here: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/my-uploaded-avatar-image-is-not-showing/id/82707/page/1#1586317
There are some threads on the changes made to original series and films (music or edits and such) when released years later on DVD, blu ray or streaming services etc in the ‘General, Technical & Format Discussions’ category of An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Preservation of Other Properties. They may be helpful to you?
This is awesome, even for someone like me who doesn’t like that much outside the OT
Thanks for reminding us that Detours existed.
Given the some badness of the some of content they have released, it makes me wonder how bad Detours is that they still won’t release it, even as filler for Disney+
That is a good point. It could be for other reasons, but may be the actual quality. A pity not much has leaked out other than that one episode released some time ago?
Like everyone else I’d love to see all the unused material from all the main films released, once and for all! 😃
Maybe it’ll happen for a possible ‘50th anniversary’ box set in 2027? Other than occasional leaks here and there, that’ would probably be our best bet? (and obviously of use for the fan editors on here)
I think it would have to be something like that for any future box set release to be marketable, even for the 50th anniversary. Include something new and different, and possibly in some type of fantastic fancy quality box.
I love the idea, and it seems something that would get more attention and some momentum if done as a comic book or animated short, or something similar?
Still think it is a shame that Lucasfilm won’t allow authors to continue any of the Legends era stories (pre-2014, that goes against their new canon, which they’ve already gone against themselves on a number of occasions).
Andor’s Beau Willimon To Co-Write Star Wars: Dawn Of The Jedi With James Mangold - at Empire magazine
'Andor was such an unexpected, soaring success that we’re surprised more of the team behind the series hasn’t been snapped up quickly to work on other projects at Lucasfilm. Well, now one of them has – Beau Willimon, who was a core part of Tony Gilroy’s writing team (he scripted the superb mini-arc set in the Narkina 5 prison complex), is now aboard to co-write big screen effort Star Wars: Dawn Of The Jedi with director James Mangold.
Mangold – who previously directed Indiana Jones And The Dial Of Destiny for Lucasfilm – has been working on the script but also turning his attention to production on his Bob Dylan biodrama A Complete Unknown. So it makes sense him adding a co-writer to work on the Star Wars project currently known as Dawn Of The Jedi, which was announced last year at Star Wars Celebration in London.
“It takes place 25,000 years before Episode IV, and it’s about the discovery of the Force,” Mangold told Empire at the event. “I told Kathy [Kennedy, head of Lucasfilm] I wanted to make a kind of Bible movie, a kind of Ten Commandments of Star Wars – kind of a Cecil B. DeMille film about the arrival of the Force, and that’s what I’ve been pecking away at between press events. That’s the idea.”
And that’s not the only Star Wars news to emerge — we now know that the likely next big screen story set in the galaxy far, far away, The Mandalorian & Grogu, has been set for a 22 May, 2026 release date.’
Good to see the talents from Andor working on other Star Wars projects. I hope we see more of that.
I’m interested in the Barriss Offee episodes finally explaining her story, but will give the Morgan Elsbeth episodes a miss.
Was this meant to come out before the Ahsoka series did? (It seems set up material for Morgan and how she became so loyal to the Empire and Thrawn, but would have been better to show this before the Ahsoka series and her lackluster ending in that show).
It’s crazy how much they have been jumping around the same small time frame of the universe with all these spinoffs. Telling a story like this gets increasingly harder, specially when all those plot lines are interconnected.
Yep, it really is baffling. There doesn’t appear to be much thought or planning going into many of these modern releases. It feels haphazard, and as you say makes it more difficult when the stories are interconnected.
Maybe we’ll be pleasantly surprised?
I’m interested in the Barriss Offee episodes finally explaining her story, but will give the Morgan Elsbeth episodes a miss.
Was this meant to come out before the Ahsoka series did? (It seems set up material for Morgan and how she became so loyal to the Empire and Thrawn, but would have been better to show this before the Ahsoka series and her lackluster ending in that show).
Edit: I posted in this in wrong Index thread. Sorry.
Episode 3x09 spoiler:
“Somehow, Ventress returned.”
https://www.starwars.com/news/bad-batch-interview-nika-futterman-asajj-ventress
No explanation is given as to why Ventress is now alive after dying and being buried in Dark Disciple. The article does say she will return in “future content”, likely in Ahsoka or Tales of the Jedi?:
“Ventress is one of our all-time favorite characters,” Rau says. “So, when Dave brought up the idea of bringing her into The Bad Batch, we were beyond excited.”
“We had several discussions about the book and how her story could continue,” Corbett explains. “How she survived will be revealed in future content, but for this story, we were thrilled to include her and explore her unique connection to, and compassion for, Omega.”
As much as I enjoyed seeing Ventress again this did feel like a cheap move to me. Waving away any explanation of her return from the dead as “a good question, for another time”. It also devalues the stakes in modern Star Wars even further. Sacrifices in stories have no meaning when there are no consequences. So they bring back another cool character from the back catalogue of the dead because they can’t think up a new one, when their simple “go to” is relying on fan service and memberberries to continue the stories instead of creating something new.
and
Ventress’ death in the 2015 novel Dark Disciple:
Found my PS1 and many of my old games for it going through the attic at my parents, and it still works too. I thought they’d all been lost a long time ago, but thanks to mislabeled boxes, they’re back!
Nice! I like emulation and the repro arcade machines, but for me nothing beats playing an old original game on the original machine (if both still work!)
Solid season so far, and pleased to see they didn’t bring back a certain character from the end of season 2 to this season.
Star Wars actor Anthony Daniels C-3PO head sold at auction for a mind-blowing $850k price!!! - at TMZ
'Anthony Daniels is making a fortune off his “Star Wars” trinkets … selling off a C-3PO head from ‘Return of the Jedi’ for enough cash to satiate even Han Solo himself.
The actor sold off the prop for $843,750 Tuesday through Propstore Auction – a popular site for fanboys and fangirls to buy their favorite movie and TV super collectibles.
Propstore says the head matches several scenes from the film, and it was the only head still in a private collection before it was sold – as of yet, it’s still unclear exactly who bought it.
The fiberglass head – made up of three components – still lights up … so the lucky mystery buyer’s got a pretty dang cool new addition to what we imagine is already a stacked “Star Wars” collection.
As for why he’s selling … Daniels told The Hollywood Reporter last week all his ‘Star Wars’ stuff’s just gathering dust in boxes and cupboards – and he’d rather it go on display or to someone who might really enjoy it.
The head wasn’t the only thing Daniels put up for auction either … he also sold a custom Pittsburgh Penguins hockey jersey given to him by the team after he participated in a charity event as well as a gingerbread cookie given to him on his last day of shooting ‘The Last Jedi,’ among other wild items.’
Was it made of actual gold?! That is one hell of a lot of money.
That is some impressive list! Are you his new agent? Or have you done something truly terrible in a previous life? 😉
The only things I can think of are:
Star Wars Adventures In Colors And Shapes (1984) - https://www.discogs.com/release/10415528-Anthony-Daniels-2-C-3PO-Star-Wars-Adventures-In-Colors-And-Shapes
and not 100% what you are looking for, but Anthony Daniels did the narration for the audiobook for his own autobiography:
“I Am C3PO” (2019) - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/639709/i-am-c-3po-by-anthony-daniels/9780744021325
^ I guess he very likely also did some C3PO voice work for it?
Although it was not playing C3PO, there is that short cameo he did in AOTC and ROTS playing Dannl Faytonni:
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Anthony_Daniels#Other_roles (and Tak in Solo, and CZ-3 in Star Wars)
Thank you student loans for getting me through university, I don’t think I can ever repay you.
This is good news! I hope they are a little cheaper than the Mandalorian season 1 and 2 sets, but I’ll settle for just getting Andor on blu ray if they are not.
Far too little LEGO for the prices they are asking for. They look good, but I’d likely have more fun trying to build it out of existing LEGO I already own than buying these new sets.
Finally an official updated release of Dark Forces!
1 minute official trailer, from Nightdive Studios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ndr_cPvwvo
Available on PS4, PS5, Xbox One, Series X|S, Nintendo Switch, and PC.
some gameplay videos and reviews:
DF Retro EX - Star Wars: Dark Forces Remaster - PC/Console - 25 minute playthrough and review video at Digital Foundry
Star Wars: Dark Forces Remaster Gameplay (Nintendo Switch) - 60 minute play through video at Miketendo64
Let’s Play Star Wars: Dark Forces Remaster Gameplay! - video at Eurogamer
Star Wars: Dark Forces Remaster Review - article at Ninentdo Life
Dark Forces Remastered makes a classic Star Wars shooter feel fast and fluid - article at ARS Technica
Dark Forces Remaster Review - article at PC Review
So looking forward to playing through this at the weekend. It looks fun, smooth and quick. With the updated graphics looking fresh but still faithful to the original game.
This feels kind of right:
Exactly this. So many Jedi survived that, if you look at ROTS, Order 66 feels meaningless. It removes any/all of the emotional impact it had in that movie.
Plus, the idea of a Jedi surviving Order 66 has become incredibly cliché to the point that it comes across as lazy writing. It seems as though every Star Wars TV/EU writer thought “a Jedi survives Order 66 story would be cool” without realizing that dozens of other writers had the exact same idea. It’s cheapening too, as it makes the idea of Obi-Wan and Yoda being the last remnants of the Jedi seem dubious. The Obi-Wan show was especially terrible about this, with the existence of an Underground Railroad for Jedi, and there are apparently so many survivors that there just happen to be two survivors on the same remote backwater planet (the other Jedi on Tatooine in Ep1.) It makes you wonder why the survivors didn’t team up to stage a coup to overthrow the Empire or something, since there evidently were enough of them to do so.
Absolutely. Instead we get:
Although I was surprised we never got to see something like Conclave On Kessel set not long after Order 66, in the animated series like The Clone Wars, Rebels, Visions or even Tales Of The Jedi. A group of Jedi come together to make a stand or try to take down Vader, or other upper Imperial hierarchy, or even to inform the general public of what has really occurred.
To make a “last stand” or even continue resisting the Emperor and his new Empire. Or simply as a “warning” story for why no other Jedi tried to band together afterwards.
Conclave on Kessel - https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Conclave_on_Kessel
^ from the 2005 comic “Star Wars: Purge” - https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Purge
It would be at least something similar to what was described here, which we unfortunately never got to see:
from JW Rinzler’s Making Of Star Wars book, posted in the Pre-PT era lore | an OT & EU scrapbook resource thread
Being swamped by spammers so often that you can’t see what is being posted on here!
Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson were going camping. They pitched their tent under the stars and went to sleep.
Some time in the middle of the night, Holmes woke Watson up and said, “Watson, look up at the sky, and tell me what you see.”
Watson replied, “I see millions and millions of stars.”
Holmes asked, “And what do you deduce from that?”
Watson replied, “Well, if there are millions of stars, and if even a few of those have planets, it’s quite likely there are some planets like Earth out there. And if there are a few planets like Earth out there, there might also be life.”
Holmes said, “Watson, you idiot, it means that somebody stole our tent.”
Avoiding the OT legacy characters, or having them appear as weird CGI faces and not actually doing much, only helps that. Instead, too often we are often “told, not shown”, and not “show, don’t tell”. We are then expected to connect with what little setting this era have been given. None of it seems planned out very well, it comes off as ad-hoc, gimmicky, or lacking. Like Caston says in his OP: it and the OT heroes deserves so much more, and I agree with Channel when he says the writing for it sucks, which leads me to being somewhere between frustration and indifference for this New Republic era.
I think many of us feel similar, or are starting to feel this way, particularly on “told, not shown”, and not “show, don’t tell”.
So much that I’ve given up on it. No more Filoni & Favreau series or films for me. They just don’t appeal to me anymore, and I’m fed up of feeling frustrated and indifferent. Instead I’ll stick to Andor, Visions, Acolyte, Skeleton Crew, and The Dawn of the Jedi film. Rey’s NJO film too, given it is set past that ST era and is being made by new talents that will hopefully bring something fresh and different.
I like that positivity, and willing to give these non-F&F shows and films a fair crack. A little like Vladius’ separation example above. I still hope the Mandoverse does improve, I hoped it after Andor, where me and others naively thought the bar in Star Wars may have to be raised, but obviously wasn’t. But there really doesn’t appear to be any indication or willingness to improve or change things up, so I imagine that aspect of Star Wars, along with the current New Republic era, will continue along the disenchanted path it is already on.
I found it underwhelming. I remember before watching Revenge Of The Sith I reminded myself to go in with an open mind, not to anticipate anything, or have high expectations based on my disappointment with the previous two Prequel Trilogy films.
It still underwhelmed. Order 66 seemed an easy option to take to show the majority of Jedi falling, but the way it was done just left me cold. Seeing a number of Jedi I hadn’t seen much of before or really cared about, be cut down, didn’t click with me. The Jedi Temple scenes made little impact too (poor younglings! like the poor Tusken women and children in AOTC). It also seemed rushed and impactless, like ticking off boxes on a list to get through to the end the movie where they thought they needed to be, to somehow line things up with the Original Trilogy.
When I see clips of the Jedi Purge I just shrug. It doesn’t mean much. A bit like how I feel in much of modern Star Wars when I see many dead characters return to the screen, or people surviving lightsaber impalements, or the poor writing in making vague references but with no build up or pay off, or use of memberberries in place of a good story or plot arc.
The Purge should have been memorable. It should have had a deep emotional connection or feeling. But it felt as disappointing as many of the other aspects on the prequels. In my head canon, ROTS never happened. I fill in the blanks with my own beat on the the original ‘Vader has been luring and tricked the Jedi to their deaths while he pretended to still be one of them over a long time’ story, to the point where he and Kenobi fight at the volcano pit:
This feels kind of right:
