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Flood of new Marvel announcements:

Just announced in Hall H:

Marvel Studios’ Secret Invasion, an Original series, streaming Spring 2023 on
Disney+.

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Marvel Studios’ Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, in theaters May 5, 2023.

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Marvel Studios’ Loki Season 2, an Original series, streaming Summer 2023 on Disney+.

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Marvel Studios’ Blade, in theaters November 3, 2023.

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Marvel Studios’ Echo, an Original series, streaming Summer 2023 on
Disney+.

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Marvel Studios’ Ironheart, an Original series, streaming Fall 2023 on
Disney+.

Just announced in Hall H:

Marvel Studios’ Agatha: Coven of Chaos, an Original series, streaming Winter 2023 on
@Disney+.

Just announced in Hall H:

Marvel Studios’ Captain America: New World Order, in theaters May 3, 2024.

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Marvel Studios’ Daredevil: Born Again, an Original series starring Charlie Cox and Vincent D’Onofrio, streaming Spring 2024 on @Disney+.

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Marvel Studios’ Thunderbolts, in theaters July 26, 2024.

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Marvel Studios’ Fantastic Four, in theaters November 8, 2024.

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Marvel Studios’ Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, in theaters May 2, 2025.

Just announced in Hall H:

Marvel Studios’ Avengers: Secret Wars, in theaters November 7, 2025.

Marvel Studios welcomes you to the Multiverse Saga.

InsertCointent said:

When I edited this cut of the Kenobi series I did so with the original trilogy in mind.

From watching the OT I never got the idea that Lea knew she was adopted when growing up, probably because George came up with the idea of Luke and Lea being twins when he did ROTJ 😊. When Bail takes Lea to look after at the end of ROTS I always figured he and his wife would raise her as their own child, and only they would know that she wasn’t. That would serve as a much better cover. To me the way the writers went with it in the Obi Wan series didn’t make much sense. This is of course just my opinion but that’s why I cut all the talk about Lea’s real parents.

I think expounding on Leia’s feelings about being adopted help the OT. Originally when Luke asks Leia about her real mother in ROTJ it comes completely out of left field. But establishing that she knows early on helps to smooth that out. And Leia looks nothing like Bail or Breha so hiding that she was adopted would never have worked.

I wouldn’t mind Visions from all around the world. It’d be interesting to see all of the different perspectives.

CarboniteSolo said:

regularjoe said:

The exposition is for the audience, who have no idea what Mos Eisley is (in 1977 when the film was made and was a self contained thing).
I never thought seeing the movie at 11 that Luke was some indentured servant on the farm, he talked about going to Tosche Station (on his own) so clearly he has reign to come and go.

I meant that the only place he could go alone was Anchorhead and Tosche Station. I’m sure he’s heard stories about Mos Eisley, but was never allowed to go there alone.

Most of the stormtroopers were there in Mos Eisley.

In the Anchorhead deleted scene he tells Biggs about the races they have in Beggar’s canyon.

Which now in canon is practically on the other side of the planet.

bbghost said:

Hal 9000 said:

Also, it would be easy to trim out Rey and Poe’s little meetcute at the end of the movie. They do appear like four feet away from each other at the end of TFA. I can’t remember if this was ever considered.

For my part I always liked this mostly for Poe’s knowing “I know.” I doubt Rey would have introduced herself to him at the end of TFA with what she had going on, but she’s a big deal in the Resistance.

A not insignificant amount of time passes at the end of TFA. She has enough time to put together an entire new custom outfit before she leaves. In that amount of time I don’t think there’s any way that Poe wouldn’t seek out this girl that Finn risked everything for to find and rescue. There’s even a scene where they do meet in the novelization. And Poe is there at the front of the crowd to see Rey off at the end.

So I’m all for cutting their “meeting” at the end of TLJ.

adywan said:

Omni said:

Personally I thought Hayden nailed the way Prowse used to move this time around. Felt very Vader-y, much more than Rogue One. Pair that up with the new voice and damn, it really is him.

Hate to tell you, but it’s BS about Hayden being Vader throughout Kenobi. There are three people in the suit on this show. Hayden only when unmasked, General acting scenes is Dmitrious Bistrevsky and for stunts and fight sequences it is Tom O’Connell

Dmitrious stated that he’s only Vader when they need full body shots to establish Vader’s height And O’Connell does the fights but that it’s all Hayden for any medium and close up shots for his performance.

Time for a gentle reminder about Rule 4. Let’s keep the discussion focused on the series please.

The real question is why would he be impressed with Eisley when he’s undoubtedly seen Mos Espa:

Beggar’s Canyon the favorite haunt of young Luke and his friends in their T-16s, was for some reason, placed right next to Mos Espa. Which is on the other side of the map far from the Lars homestead and Mos Eisley. Undoubtedly they would have to fly past Espa whenever they wanted to race the canyon. And probably frequented it to refuel and celebrate after their races.

Anchorhead looks impressive at first glance in that still but if you take a close look it also captures the full length of it. It’s still a small town compared to Mos Eisley which houses at minimum 94 large docking bays. In the old EU Mos Eisley had 362 such docking bays and it’s probably the same in the new canon. That’s a much larger scale than any depiction of Anchorhead could support.

Star Wars: The Bad Batch | Season 2 Official Trailer

Yeah I really hope we get another revival of the Clone Wars someday. There are still so many plot threads left hanging like Maul’s escape from Sidious and closure for Ventress and Boba.

Pie in the sky, I think it would be neat to see the earliest days of the war just after AOTC. Get a more fleshed out exploration of the areas Tartakovsky’s series touched on. Perhaps even finally a canon depiction of how Anakin got his scar.

Tales of the Jedi is an anthology of Original animated shorts, each story featuring Jedi from the prequel era, streaming Fall 2022 only on Disney+.

Confirmed characters so far:
Dooku
Qui-Gon
Mace Windu
Ahsoka Tano

jedi_bendu said:

(Also, this is a spoiler thread right? It’s gonna be annoying having to spoiler tag every message posted in here if not)

It hasn’t been officially declared as one but anyone coming into a thread about a show that’s now begun airing shouldn’t be surprised to see spoilers. So unless the thread author says otherwise I think untagged spoilers should be fine in this thread. Unless someone wants to make a dedicated spoiler discussion thread. Just remember to keep spoilers out of the rest of the forum.

adywan said:

Spoilers:

So Ben is persuaded to go and look for leia, knowing the inquisitors would be after him. So, what does he do? Does he wear the same outfit that he is wearing on Tatooine? No, he decides the best way to not stand out is to dress like a bloody jedi. Really?

Response:

He’s not dressed like a Jedi though. He’s not wearing his Jedi tunic and while yes he’s wearing a brown hooded robe we know that’s not unusual in Star Wars. Tons of people all across Mos Eisley in SW77 wear them, even the multi-eyed used landspeeder salesman. They’re an easy way to blend into a crowd and hide your face.

adywan said:

Spoilers:

The first part of EP 2 is nothing more than fluff. he wasn’t interested in the jedi before yet he is suddenly excited about another jedi being on this planet? Turns out out be a con man. We see this guy happily con a woman and her child out of money. but later he just helps obi-wan?

Response:

That first Jedi approached him not far from the Lars homestead. His entire mission is to keep Luke safe and to do that no one can know about him. That Jedi could have had the Inquisitors right on his tail which would have been an eminent threat to Luke. Now that he’s off planet and safely away from Luke getting the help of another Jedi to help find and rescue Leia would be a huge boon.

As for the fake Jedi. He still helps that woman escape he just did it under the guise of a Jedi. It’s theatrics, it’s easier for people to trust that a Jedi would help them than just some random man. And his final conversation with Obi-wan heavily suggests he’s a Rebel sympathizer and has sent Obi-Wan to meet a Rebel contact.

adywan said:

She tells him that anakin is still alive. But, wait a minute… How does she know that obi-wan thinks anakin is dead? That whole scene just seemed like it was rushed in there just so we could get the anakin reveal in the end, with the super wide head. Obi-Wan’s realisation that Anakin is still alive could have been handled so much better, but they screwed it, just for the Duff Duff moment ending ( UK peeps will probably get the eastenders reference here)

Response:

She’s employing the same tactics that Vader used on Luke in the Emperor’s throne room. Working him up and then reading his thoughts/emotions while his control is compromised.

PlugFMammoth said:

My sense is that in Star Wars (1977) it was not planned for the Rebels to be explicitly fighting to restore democracy as we understand it. The articles of rebellion was written much later. All we knew was that there was a “Senate” which was disbanded.

The original novelization for Star Wars was released November 12th, 1976. And contained this prologue:

ANOTHER galaxy, another time.
The Old Republic was the Republic of legend, greater than distance or time. No need to note where it was or whence it came, only to know that… it was the Republic.
Once, under the wise rule of the Senate and the protection of the Jedi Knights, the Republic throve and grew. But as often happens when wealth and power pass beyond the admirable and attain the awesome, then appear those evil ones who have greed to match.
So it was with the Republic at its height. Like the greatest of trees, able to withstand any external attack, the Republic rotted from within though the danger was not visible from outside.
Aided and abetted by restless, power-hungry individuals within the government, and the massive organs of commerce, the ambitious Senator Palpatine caused himself to be elected President of the Republic. He promised to reunite the disaffected among the people and to restore the remembered glory of the Republic.
Once secure in office he declared himself Emperor, shutting himself away from the populace. Soon he was controlled by the very assistants and boot-lickers he had appointed to high office, and the cries of the people for justice did not reach his ears.
Having exterminated through treachery and deception the Jedi Knights, guardians of justice in the galaxy, the Imperial governors and bureaucrats prepared to institute a reign of terror among the disheartened worlds of the galaxy. Many used the imperial forces and the name of the increasingly isolated Emperor to further their own personal ambitions.
But a small number of systems rebelled at these new outrages. Declaring themselves opposed to the New Order they began the great battle to restore the Old Republic.
From the beginning they were vastly outnumbered by the systems held in thrall by the Emperor. In those first dark days it seemed certain the bright flame of resistance would be extinguished before it could cast the light of new truth across a galaxy of oppressed and beaten peoples…

jedi_bendu said:

Hal 9000 said:

Might be the power of suggestion, but Hayden looks more like Sebastian Shaw nowadays.

He also sounds more like Matt Lanter. Unless we’re both imagining things…

I also noted how he seems to be speaking in a deeper tone recently. And others have made the comparison before.

It is interesting how he recently confirmed he watched all of the Clone Wars as prep.

Yeah I’m feeling a little nervous about Kenobi now that we’re so close. But if it’s bad I still have Andor to look forward to. I’ve never cared about the Force, so a show centered around espionage at the height of the Empire’s power is right up my alley.

New trailer:
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law

Yeah the whole suit seems to fit him a lot better than the ROTS one which felt baggy.

We do though.

Rebels spoiler:

She was trapped on Malachor without a ship. And considering the fact that she left the Order during the Clone Wars, her surviving into the OT era doesn’t contradict Yoda’s statement that Luke is the last of the Jedi. Ezra on the other hand…

Anyone else going to see Multiverse of Madness tonight or this weekend?

This is a pretty great time to be an MCU fan with a great first season of Moon Knight and now MoM.

If you look between your orignal post and CatBus’ first response there’s a second Edit button. You can edit the thread title with that.

timdiggerm said:

Given that this is their final season, let’s hope they pull off the sort of swan song they never got, something akin in feel to The Undiscovered Country.

They had their perfect send off in All Good Things. The movies that followed and the Picard series in particular highlight the truth in the saying you can never go home again.

I feel sorry for the fans who held off watching the new series but will now start doing so in anticipation for season 3. As the first season is one of the most cynical, cold and cruel things I’ve ever watched. I’d never been personally offended by a television series before this. And the second season isn’t much better. What they’ve done to Gene Roddenberry’s vision is unforgivable.

Stardust1138 said:

What would Trekkies say are essential things about it that I need to know?

I’d say you’re well on your way. Familiarity with TOS and TNG is the baseline for the franchise.

A reminder to be mindful of Rule 3. Let’s keep the discussion focused on the series.