Keyan Farlander

Happy Orthodox Star Wars Day.
 

It will be Despecialized or 4K77 for me tonight.

Haarspalter said:

That interview confirms one more time that the GOUT 2006 DVD was Lucas’ deliberate middlefinger in the face of the OT fans. And his stupid argument that it looked bad and that is why his numerous Special Edition iterations are better … what a terrible & dumb justification.

Also worth noting as he mentions ‘the director, or the writer or the filmmaker’ … he basically justifys his ‘clean-ups’ on EMPIRE and JEDI since he was not the director. As i remember in earlier interviews he always referred to the directors right.

Absolutely this.

Trying to pass of laserdisc level quality as the best quality the originals would look?! A pity he’d never do an interview or talk with someone who’d actually call him out on his claims, or simply question him on them.
 

The originals, preserved by the fans, look better than anything Lucasfilm has released on the OT within the last 20 years. People may want to question that.

Lexa C said:

I think there is already a thread on this conversation? In the General Star Wars Discussion forum? Probably in the “Rankings” or “Vs & Similarities” sections?

Edit: I found it. Prequels or Sequels; Which do you prefer - and why?
 

Do similar threads not get merged together on here?

Some really cool fan edits for both the PT and ST make them far more enjoyable than watching the official cuts.

I do like Sequel fan edits far more than the prequel fan edits. That is no disrespect to the editors, it is just what they have to work with.

Caston said:

Steren said:

He arrived today !
That’s so refreshing to have new public declarations of him.
Check out that one, https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2830844893761474
After 5 minutes , he’s asked about streaming plateforms and AI in movies, quite interesting to hear him on that

No, thanks.

The bullshit George Lucas spouts in here is more than enough for one day: New Lucas interview - the originals “look terrible”
 

Unfortunately people will likely see George’s quotes and speeches and unquestioningly take them as fact.

Or why he changed the work of other directors. Not only changing it, but actively supressing the original version by those other directors.

That laserdisc quality claim. Wow!

I think I’ve seen this posted in other places on here, but it also suits this thread. A sharp video from HelloGreedo detailing why the original theatrical versions of the OT are still important, and answering some fans shitting on that idea. (made before the release of 4K80)

Some People Don’t Get It - Star Wars Changes - an 11 minute video from HelloGreedo (2023)

‘Some people don’t seem to understand the broader problem with the Star Wars changes and the lack of preserving the original theatrical cut of the original Star Wars trilogy.’

Sideburns of BoShek said:

Bob Iger Reflects on Disney’s Streaming Launch: “We Invested Too Much” - at Hollywood Reporter

He says they invested to much in the streaming service with new shows, but it didn’t have to be that way. Disney has plenty of content in their archives they still haven’t shown, that they easily could, and cheaply too.

Sure, there has to be a balance of new and old content, and they know what would attract more subscribers in showing older rarely seen or available content (and a certain OOT!), but they simply refuse to do it, or even acknowledge it.

As JadedSkywalker says above, $50 for a short season on a steelbook is insane, but just about more preferable than subscribing to Disney.

They don’t keep it simple, do they? And then they wonder why it is not working or where they have gone wrong. Ignoring the elephant in the room and what fans actually would pay for to see. KISS.

Some more promo and store displays. It has been a long time since I saw that much Star Wars content on store shelves.

It really doesn’t feel like it has been 20 years! The hype and merch were indeed strong for those releases. Much stronger than the quality of the actual release.

WHen I think about it now, the whole “for the first time on DVD” marketing thing was bullshit. These 2004 cuts (with even more alterations) were the first time they’d ever been released, not just on DVD.
 

“We know how long fans have waited for this release and how much they have been looking forward to it, so everyone has been working overtime to make sure that the Star Wars Trilogy on DVD is an awesome experience,” said Jim Ward, Vice President of Marketing and Distribution for Lucasfilm Ltd. and the DVD collection’s Executive Producer.

“First and foremost, the DVDs will deliver the very best possible sound and picture and take advantage of everything the medium can offer.”

^ https://web.archive.org/web/20040210165950/https://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/news/2004/02/news20040210.html

They did not deliver anywhere near “the best possible sound and picture”, and was far from “an awesome experience”, as Jim Ward claimed. LMAO.

20th Century Fox claimed that first day sales alone made over $100m - https://money.cnn.com/2004/09/23/news/midcaps/starwars/index.htm

kevwright said:

I’m still having massive headaches trying to navigate this site… can someone please send me links to the original three files, if you know what I mean? Please and thank you.

and

kevwright said:

Hello, I’m new here, and although I’m not a tech novice… I have to say, I’m not doing a good job of finding what I’m looking for. So, I will try to make it simple: could someone please please directly send me the links to all three of the trilogy? Please and thank you.

I don’t think anyone can help you if you do not help yourself.
 

Which Original Trilogy preservation project are you looking for the links to? There seem to be hundreds of different projects on here. From Despecialized, to 4K77/80/83, to Ohteedee, TR2N, puggo, GOUT upscales, HD upscales from DVDs, and so many more.

There are also man Fan Edits of the Original Trilogy on here. Do you mean you are looking for adywan’s Revisited Edits, or Hal9000’s cuts, or any of the projects tailored for many individual tastes?

There is information on the different OT projects here, from An Index & Help Thread for Original Trilogy Discussion:
 

If you are looking for Fan Preservations (or Fan Edits) of the Original Trilogy - this is where to look…

(Notably Harmy’s Despecialized Editions, or TN1’s 4K77/80/83 Trilogy, or other countless preservation projects made by fans)
 

 

The Star Wars Preservation forum

and

An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Preservations
 

and for Fan Edits of the Original Trilogy…

An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Fan Edits and Other Projects

 

Also of interest may be…

The ‘Which Is Best?’ Star Wars Preservation Project discussion threads

and

The ‘Best’ Star Wars Fan Edits? (subjective conversations as to which Fan Edits are highly rated / liked / to suit)

 

as well looking in…

About, Help, Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within, and ‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + member FAQs - for links to useful info and some often-searched fan projects.
 

Information can also be found in the various pinned ‘Index & Help’ threads located around the forum.

Reading any of these should also help:

Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com; Introduce yourself in here + useful info within…

About

Help

‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + member FAQs

OT.com Forum Rules and Guidelines and Fan Edit / Preservation Forum Rules and FAQ

I have found a Fan Edit / Preservation I am interested in - but don’t know how to get / acquire / download it?
 

Or reading through any of the ‘Index of Projects & Help’ threads pinned up in each of the four main ‘Fan Project’ sections…

This information is found in many of the links found above, and around this website:
 

Looking to acquire projects on here? Then please read this…

(and take the time to look around to see how this place works - and doesn’t - before posting requests for projects on here - thank you)
 

I have found a Fan Edit / Preservation Project I am interested in - but don’t know how to get / acquire / download it?
 

The OriginalTrilogy•com is a community where a ‘read first - post after’ mantra benefits everyone here - especially for the ‘Fan Project’ sections. We appreciate some may be excited to see the projects featured on this site - information on how to acquire them is readily available - yet patience is also required. If you bring impatience, entitlement, aggressive or vitriolic attitudes, personal attacks, or toxicity… then expect some choice words in return - and also expect your stay on here to be a short one.

Do NOT create a new thread asking ‘for a link to’… to Harmy’s Despecialized Editions, TN1’s 4K77/80/83, adywan’s Revisited Edits, the Hal9000 Edits, or any other project listed on this site. It is for you to take 5 minutes and go find the relevant project on here, for you to then read up on what the project is about, and then how to acquire it. Do not ask / expect others to do this simple task for you - we’ve had hundreds of such entitled requests over the years - and the patience of OT•com community members understandably wears thin. If thousands of people have managed to find, read up on, and then acquire these projects listed on here over the years… then you can too. A little patience - and a ‘read first - post after’ mantra - goes a long way on here…
 

These ‘signpost’ threads, featuring useful info and links to the five most sought-after fan projects, may be of interest…

• Some info & help for Harmy’s Despecialized Editions of the Original Trilogy…

• Some info & help for Puggo’s Grande 16mm preservations of the Original Trilogy…

• Some info & help for TN1’s 4K77, 4K80 & 4K83 preservation projects of the Original Trilogy…

• Some info & help for adywan’s Revisited Editions of the Original Trilogy…

• Some info & help for the Hal 9000 Edits of the Prequel & Sequel Trilogies (+ more)
 

Obviously there are countless more projects in the four main Project Index threads in each of the ‘Fan Project’ sections of the site:-

• Star Wars Preservation - Project Index

• Star Wars Fan Edits and Other Projects - Project Index

• Preservation of Other Properties - Project Index

• Fan Edits and Projects for Other Properties - Project Index
 

A link to ‘Where is the site Search Bar? / How to search for projects, information, or discussion threads on OriginalTrilogy.com’.

In the following post it actually tells us what to do if we are interested in acquiring a project on here:-
 

I have found a Fan Edit / Preservation I am interested in - but don’t know how to get / acquire / download it?

Read through the thread of the project you are interest in - there is usually information in there (often in the very first post) on how to acquire a project.

If no such information is in the thread…
 

then simply send a polite PM to the fan editor / preservationist asking them for links or information on how to obtain it
 

…and after that a little bit of patience is required. It is likely that the Fan Edit author / owner isn’t online every day - or even every week - and may have a ton of queries or other stuff to get through before dealing with and replying to your request.

If you haven’t heard back after some time (over a month or so…), then let it be known that you are seeking a copy by making a post in the relevant thread; hopefully other members of the community on here may be in a position to help you. This also applies or if the fan editor / preservationist are obviously no longer about this site anymore.

 

• Do NOT simply just post ‘a request’ for links in the project thread (unless asked to do so by the editor or preservationist) - doing so just fills threads up with endless link requests… which often disrupts any ongoing discussions, further ideas & feedback occurring in such threads.

Also, fellow members may be more likely to help you out if you are an active member of the community here - you don’t have to be a fellow fan editor, preservationist, tech wiz, artistic or skilled etc; just a member that has made, or is making, an effort…

NOTE: Many editors & preservationists choose not to make their projects available to ‘hit & runners’ or people with a post history of mainly asking for various projects - which is completely up to them. That some people join up here looking to simply take - instead of give something back; not even leaving a simple ‘thank you’, feedback or review, or join in with the community here - and instead move on to asking for more projects… is not encouraged. As above, such requests may likely be ignored.

 

• Joining up here and then creating a new thread along the lines ‘Give me the link to X’, ‘Where is project Y’, or going straight into a project thread and posting ‘How do I get these?’ doesn’t really fly on here - and will likely be ignored or deleted.

Many of the projects on here have been undertaken by volunteers or enthusiasts who’ve devoted considerable time, effort, dedication and some expense… to locate, preserve, restore & archive - or edit - films and TV programs in their best possible presentation. This is often with painstaking commitment - yet all projects are available for free; not to mention our members also improving upon & sharing techniques, knowledge, technical assistance, experiences - and a few stories, along the way…

The OriginalTrilogy•com is a community where a ‘read first - post after’ mantra benefits everyone here - especially for the ‘Fan Project’ sections. We appreciate some may be excited to see the projects featured on this site - information on how to acquire them is readily available - yet patience is also required. If you bring impatience, entitlement, aggressive or vitriolic attitudes, personal attacks, or toxicity… then expect some choice words in return - and also expect your stay on here to be a short one.

Do NOT create a new thread asking ‘for a link to’… to Harmy’s Despecialized Editions, TN1’s 4K77/80/83, adywan’s Revisited Edits, the Hal9000 Edits, or any other project listed on this site. It is for you to take 5 minutes and go find the relevant project on here, for you to then read up on what the project is about, and then how to acquire it. Do not ask / expect others to do this simple task for you - we’ve had hundreds of such entitled requests over the years - and the patience of OT•com community members understandably wears thin. If thousands of people have managed to find, read up on, and then acquire these projects listed on here over the years… then you can too. A little patience - and a ‘read first - post after’ mantra - goes a long way on here…

 
Your only 2 posts on here are 2 separate threads that read like you haven’t looked through the project threads, or indexes, or instructions, or look up how things work on here. Something thousands of others on here have managed to do when we are all looking for projects. Instead, you just lazily created 2 new threads, despite the site specifically asking people ‘Do NOT create a new thread asking for links’, and wanting someone to send you links to an original OT project? Maybe I am wrong, maybe not.

I hope you find the OT project you are looking for. Read through the project thread for instructions on how to get it, or see if anyone is kindly helping others out with links or information in that project thread. Or just simply ask in the project thread itself on how to get it if there isn’t any information already provided.

Good luck. Not that any luck is really needed: just reading through a thread or two, following the information provided, and then a little patience.

Caston said:

AI would have a field day doing this for all the Star Wars content, it’d be an advertisers’ dream.

For comedy and light hearted fan edits too 😃

Ash! I used to play this listening to a lengthy Ash playlist I’d made specifically for the game, along with a few other similar groups and tracks. Clones and Vode An were on it, ofc. Some very happy memories playing this, and yes it was a shame there was no proper sequel to it.

Acbagel said:

daveybjones999 said:

So the new trailer for this show has dropped and it’s way better than the first one we get a much better sense of the stakes and the scale that the story is going to take place on. The action we see here looks better than the previous trailer as well. Also, it seems like the color grading is a bit better and we’re seeing scenes with more desaturated colors and a better sense of characterization. So the trailer makes me way more hopeful for the show, but there’s still something that feels missing and I’m not sure what it is.

Agree on this one, new trailer did a much better job than the first teaser. Made me a little bit more hopeful for this project. I disagree with a lot of the criticism online about this, and while I don’t think it looks great, I remain slightly optimistic about this story. Something does still feel off about it though! I don’t feel “High Republic” setting when I watch. It looks like a very sterile hollywood production, but I’m open to being wrong about that once we start seeing full episodes.

The same for me, the new trailer was a solid improveemnt. I hope we get something like a 5-10 minute background video for this explaining what the whole series is about, the tone, before it airs. Something like, but for all the characters, or maybe an overview video from Headland herself?

This 2 minute YouTube video is from the official Disney+ Korea channel:

The Acolyte | Master Sol Lee Jung-jae Special Video

This is such a cool project, but it does already have a thread on here. From the EU Index:

Heir to the Empire - animated fan film series (up on youtube) (2020 thread; DarthAngelus’ HTTE animated web series)

Maybe you can ask a moderator to merge the threads?

^ from the Tales of The Empire trailer
 

New Republic soldiers appear to be Star Wars answer to Star Trek’s red shirt trope from some 60 years ago.

No substance, no real interaction or belief they could independently function in their surroundings, and therefore limited viewer immersion in the stories which they appear. They simply exist to then disposably die in some sort of attempt to raise stakes or tension for other characters in badly written, unengaging, predictable stories.

I agree with most of you guys. It was ok to good in parts, but also felt safe, vague and lacking. Rushed maybe?

A little disappointed we didn’t see Rex, Gregor, Cody, Wolffe, or any of the many new characters such as Namic, Fireball, and Howzer. They had potential. I also didn’t like the way the Clone Commandos were treated as regular troopers. Scorch seemed to be a just regular bodyguard, for fan service, and not much like his RC era character. With the Clone Assassins feeling more like an end of level boss than actual characters. These are the aspects that felt rushed or glossed over tom me.

Hemlock not having any data backups or there being an “Emperor’s Top Secret Projects” cloud seems convenient. Despite the research lost, the scientists seem to have survived for the most part according to Tarkin’s officer. Maybe they’ll go work for the Emperor now? Or not give Tarkin just decided to transfer funds to the Death Star project, despite this being of the “highest importance” to the Emperor himself.

I’ve seen elsewhere online people say they’ll bring back Tech and Scorch if they want to for future animation shows, and given the the handwaving away for Ventress return they may be right. I hope they don’t, I hope they finally stop with this gimmicky feeling trope.

The set-up and improvements in the series, especially in season 2 and early season 3, felt like they were rowed back as we approached the end of the show. I guess I was hoping for it to be more. It was okay. 6-ish out of 10 for me too.

Lexa C said:

The series is cool and loved playing the DF/JK games, but I do wish there were more Star Wars games that were just dedicated First Person Shooters. I was kind of hoping that I’d just missed or forgot about any other FPS Star Wars games?

Doom! I’ll have a look around to see if someone has modded that with some Star Wars skins!

There only being 2 FPS-only games in Star Wars is a little strange, but it looks like there won’t be any more for some time.

I’d love to see a renewed series of the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games, maybe some of the popular other game series as well, but I don’t think it’ll happen. For me it is a pity as Star Wars gaming has been shit, quality and quantity wise, for some time.

The penultimate episode felt a little flat to me. Things we’ve all seen before and all too familiar. It also leaves a lot to do for the final episode. Maybe it will be a double length episode? Even so, I hope they land it. Somehow.

Mason_Strife said:

Been wanting to rewatch the Trilogy again with my GF she hasn’t seen it before I want to give her the closest experience to the theatrical cut possible. I have seen multiple Fan Edits online which one do you think is the closest and accurate to the original cut ?

Many people appear to go for Harmy’s Despecialized Editions, or TN1’s 4K77/4K80/4K83 preservations. But there are others to choose from too.
 

There is information on the different projects here, from An Index & Help Thread for Original Trilogy Discussion:

oojason said:

If you are looking for Fan Preservations of the Original Trilogy - this is where to look…

(Notably Harmy’s Despecialized Editions, or TN1’s 4K77/80/83 Trilogy, or other countless preservation projects made by fans)
 

 

The Star Wars Preservation forum

and

An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Preservations
 

and for Fan Edits of the Original Trilogy…

An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Star Wars Fan Edits and Other Projects

 

Also of interest may be…

The ‘Which Is Best?’ Star Wars Preservation Project discussion threads

and

The ‘Best’ Star Wars Fan Edits? (subjective conversations as to which Fan Edits are highly rated / liked / to suit)

 

as well looking in…

About, Help, Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com | Introduce yourself in here | Useful info within, and ‘How do I do this?’ on the OriginalTrilogy.com; some info & answers + member FAQs - for links to useful info and some often-searched fan projects.
 

Information can also be found in the various pinned ‘Index & Help’ threads located around the forum.

daryldor said:

Hi, I’m sure this gets asked all the time and I’m sorry for posting. After spending some time going through the FAQ’s I just wanted to be clear about something.

If I want to download one of the original 35mm prints, I have to ask in the comments for that post? and then someone will hopefully DM a link?

Yes, pretty much.

Follow in the instructions in the opening post of the thread, which is usually asking people to send them a PM or similar.

If not, then read through the thread for any further instructions or help. If still no luck, then make a post asking for it in the thread.
 

or follow this from the ‘How do I do this?/FAQs’ thread:

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/How-do-I-do-this-on-the-OriginalTrilogy-com-some-info-answers-member-FAQs/id/60848/page/1#1208183

^ spambots, or AI spambots?

Like in here: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/my-uploaded-avatar-image-is-not-showing/id/82707/page/1#1586317
 

There are some threads on the changes made to original series and films (music or edits and such) when released years later on DVD, blu ray or streaming services etc in the ‘General, Technical & Format Discussions’ category of An Index Of Projects & Help Thread for Preservation of Other Properties. They may be helpful to you?

Lexa C said:

This is awesome, even for someone like me who doesn’t like that much outside the OT

Mocata said:

Thanks for reminding us that Detours existed.

Given the some badness of the some of content they have released, it makes me wonder how bad Detours is that they still won’t release it, even as filler for Disney+

That is a good point. It could be for other reasons, but may be the actual quality. A pity not much has leaked out other than that one episode released some time ago?

Caston said:

Like everyone else I’d love to see all the unused material from all the main films released, once and for all! 😃

Maybe it’ll happen for a possible ‘50th anniversary’ box set in 2027? Other than occasional leaks here and there, that’ would probably be our best bet? (and obviously of use for the fan editors on here)

I think it would have to be something like that for any future box set release to be marketable, even for the 50th anniversary. Include something new and different, and possibly in some type of fantastic fancy quality box.

I love the idea, and it seems something that would get more attention and some momentum if done as a comic book or animated short, or something similar?

Still think it is a shame that Lucasfilm won’t allow authors to continue any of the Legends era stories (pre-2014, that goes against their new canon, which they’ve already gone against themselves on a number of occasions).

Andor’s Beau Willimon To Co-Write Star Wars: Dawn Of The Jedi With James Mangold - at Empire magazine
 

'Andor was such an unexpected, soaring success that we’re surprised more of the team behind the series hasn’t been snapped up quickly to work on other projects at Lucasfilm. Well, now one of them has – Beau Willimon, who was a core part of Tony Gilroy’s writing team (he scripted the superb mini-arc set in the Narkina 5 prison complex), is now aboard to co-write big screen effort Star Wars: Dawn Of The Jedi with director James Mangold.

Mangold – who previously directed Indiana Jones And The Dial Of Destiny for Lucasfilm – has been working on the script but also turning his attention to production on his Bob Dylan biodrama A Complete Unknown. So it makes sense him adding a co-writer to work on the Star Wars project currently known as Dawn Of The Jedi, which was announced last year at Star Wars Celebration in London.

“It takes place 25,000 years before Episode IV, and it’s about the discovery of the Force,” Mangold told Empire at the event. “I told Kathy [Kennedy, head of Lucasfilm] I wanted to make a kind of Bible movie, a kind of Ten Commandments of Star Wars – kind of a Cecil B. DeMille film about the arrival of the Force, and that’s what I’ve been pecking away at between press events. That’s the idea.”

And that’s not the only Star Wars news to emerge — we now know that the likely next big screen story set in the galaxy far, far away, The Mandalorian & Grogu, has been set for a 22 May, 2026 release date.’

Good to see the talents from Andor working on other Star Wars projects. I hope we see more of that.

MORC said:

Keyan Farlander said:

I’m interested in the Barriss Offee episodes finally explaining her story, but will give the Morgan Elsbeth episodes a miss.

Was this meant to come out before the Ahsoka series did? (It seems set up material for Morgan and how she became so loyal to the Empire and Thrawn, but would have been better to show this before the Ahsoka series and her lackluster ending in that show).

It’s crazy how much they have been jumping around the same small time frame of the universe with all these spinoffs. Telling a story like this gets increasingly harder, specially when all those plot lines are interconnected.

Yep, it really is baffling. There doesn’t appear to be much thought or planning going into many of these modern releases. It feels haphazard, and as you say makes it more difficult when the stories are interconnected.

Maybe we’ll be pleasantly surprised?